Defender of the Faith
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Post by Defender of the Faith on Oct 15, 2015 22:12:04 GMT -5
~Note, the opinions of this article are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of the Habsburg League.~
Carlism receives a lot a hate from many monarchists, who claim that the Carlists are relics from a bygone age, who's existance only weakens the Spanish Monarchy, however, this is simply not the case.
First and most importantly, the House of Bourbon-Parma are the rightful heirs to the Throne of Spain. Prince Xavier was appointed as the heir to the Spanish throne by King Alfonso Carlos, last member of the Carlist line.
Second, the current Spanish Monarchs are not your friends. Let me say it again, the current Spanish Monarchy are not the allies of Christendom or the Restorationist movement. "Phillip VI" is married to a woman who, priot to marrying Phillip, had been previously in a civil marriage. In June 2014, Felipe and Letizia became the first Spanish monarchs to receive and recognize LGBT organisations at the Palace. Felipe also changed the protocol in order to allow people to take the oath of office without a crucifix or Bible. "Phillip VI" also supports letting in "migrants" as part of ISIS's Trojan Horse scheme. He supports the EU, stating that "There is no alternative to a united Europe." He has continues to tolerate the treason of the Catalonians, even allowing them to remove royal portraits from Town Halls in Catalonia, which is illegal. The King has also failed to do anything about Spain's liberal abortion laws or the fact that Spain allows Homosexual "Marriage".
~To be continued~
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Post by The Irish Jacobite on Oct 15, 2015 22:36:55 GMT -5
That is why I suggest that the Habsburgs rule Spain and Portugal.
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Post by Defender of the Faith on Oct 16, 2015 8:27:06 GMT -5
The Habsburgs legally abandoned their claim after the War of Spanish Succession. However, the Habsburgs have one of the two best Carlists claims. First, any descendant of "Isabella II" is excluded, Isabella was illegitimate and committed treason against the king, both of which exclude them from succession. That leaves two claimants:
Borbón-Parma claim: Carlos Javier II. I don't know, but I certainly hope that he has abandoned his father's politics. If he has not, Prince Sixto Enrique, his uncle, is still Regent.
Claim: Xavier, Duke of Parma , known in Spain as Don Javier de Borbón, had been named regent of the Carlist Communion by Alfonso Carlos in 1936 as the nearest member of the House of Bourbon who shared the Carlist ideals.
Habsburgo-Borbón claim: Archduke Dominic of Austria.
Claim: The eldest daughter of Carlos, Duke of Madrid was Bianca de Borbón y Borbón-Parma (1868–1949). She married Archduke Leopold Salvator of Austria (1863–1931). In 1943, one of their sons presented himself as Carlist claimant in succession to his great-uncle Alfonso Carlos. Since this claim comes through a female line, it is rejected by most Carlists.
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Post by The Irish Jacobite on Oct 16, 2015 22:16:13 GMT -5
The Habsburgs need to resume their claims to the Spanish and Portuguese thrones.
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Post by Defender of the Faith on Oct 17, 2015 7:56:37 GMT -5
The Habsburgs need to resume their claims to the Spanish and Portuguese thrones. The thing is, they can't. The House of Habsburg gave up all claims to the thrones of Spain and Portugal after the War of Spanish Succession. The only claim they now have is Dominic von Habsburg's claim on Spain.
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Post by The Irish Jacobite on Oct 18, 2015 23:30:27 GMT -5
The Legitimists don't abide by the Treaty of Utrecht, why should the Habsburgs? That's as stupid as saying that Emperor Otto's children can't rule, because he renounced his claims because those republican bastards in Austria demanded it. The treaty needs to be done away with.
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Post by Defender of the Faith on Oct 19, 2015 14:09:32 GMT -5
The Legitimists don't abide by the Treaty of Utrecht, why should the Habsburgs? That's as stupid as saying that Emperor Otto's children can't rule, because he renounced his claims because those republican bastards in Austria demanded it. The treaty needs to be done away with. What exactly are you talking about in regards to the Treaty of Utrecht? I'm not sure I know what you are talking about.
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Post by The Irish Jacobite on Oct 21, 2015 21:19:47 GMT -5
The legitimists support Louis XX for king, even though he is descended from Philip V, because he has a superior claim to Henri d'Orleans. He is related more closely to Henry V of France. Henry V of France.
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Post by The Irish Jacobite on Nov 17, 2015 20:42:16 GMT -5
Also, for the Habsburgs, Ferdinand III was married to princess Maria Anna of Spain. So blessed Karl I is descended from Charles V, Philip II and Philip III in the female line.
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Post by Defender of the Faith on Nov 17, 2015 20:50:31 GMT -5
To be honest, Central and Eastern Europe is enough for the Habsburgs. Just because we support Habsburg restoration, doesn't mean we need a Habsburg Hegemony over all of Europe. Let the Bourbon-Parmas have Spain and let the Braganzas have Portugal.
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Post by The Irish Jacobite on Nov 17, 2015 21:06:56 GMT -5
I think that the Bourbon-Parmas should rule Lombardi-Venetia, and the Habsburgs should rule Spain, Portugal, their colonies, and Sicily, as well as the Empire.
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